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editing is the process where the movie

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or the television show is actually made

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everything else is gathering the raw

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materials as my friend George Lucas

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likes to say um it's it's also the place

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where you you execute your final rewrite

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because there are so many creative

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decisions still to be made during the

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editing and so much that you learn about

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the story it is that you want to

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tell one of the most uh exciting but

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daunting things about the editing

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process it's the time in which you you

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actually come to terms with the

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possibilities of your story everything

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else has been a a sort of a hope a

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belief now in very tangible ways you're

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looking at what your story actually has

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to say what do it what does it convey

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how effective can it be now if the

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results of that are unsatisfactory for

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you or your audience there's still a lot

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you can do about it and that is what

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it's important to understand is that

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despite your plan despite you know

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everything that went into all the

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choices that you made from the script

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through the casting through the

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production design the budgeting the

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shooting well it doesn't matter what you

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thought you were were doing or what you

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hoped you were going to get what matters

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now is what you have to work

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with so it's important to put all of

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that behind you and have an open mind uh

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I always uh like to turn to the editors

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at a certain point when I see a scene

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that's not working very well and I like

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to say what idiot directed that scene uh

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because it's it's just a way of kind of

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formally just putting all of that behind

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us it doesn't matter matter this is the

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task at

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hand a good editor is proficient is

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professional um is is willing

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hardworking um and um you know doesn't

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have a lot of ego is is is is willing to

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follow Direction um and uh um and you

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know and and and has and has good solid

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editor is somebody who has all of those

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qualities and

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yet can look at a scene in a slightly

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different way has superb taste and um a

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creative imagination

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that sort of inspires him or her to

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re-edit the scenes in ways that the

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director didn't

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present uh that weren't necessarily

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scripted in a in a particular way might

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reorder some of the dialogue might U you

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know structurally reshape things I I

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wouldn't want that to be the primary

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initial cut but I love it when an editor

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has the confidence to take some some

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sort of creative authorship over a scene

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however editors are not the people who

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are supposed to Al to decide what the

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Final Cut is um whether the director has

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Final Cut in a contract or not uh you

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know I believe that the best

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films um benefit from you know this this

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single um o over oversight and um and

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and that's the director but I work very

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closely with editors who are extremely

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talented and very creative and it's

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another one of those key collaborations

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that yields um a set of options and um

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um it's you know it's my job to to

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choose the the the approach um same with

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you know Director of Photography um and

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uh and and all of these other categories

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autonomy and Authority but um they're

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all they're all reporting to uh the CEO

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of the movie and that's the director

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you and your editor assuming you are

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working with somebody in that capacity

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um need to have a conversation early on

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and the conversation needs to go

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something like this um Editor to the

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director um do you want to let me know

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which takes you liked the most or do you

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want me to watch the footage and make my

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own autonomous decisions the director's

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takes that I like and I'll even give you

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a sense of how I think the scene should

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be um edited together either either I'll

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call you on the phone uh we'll watch the

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dailies together or I'll send you um you

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notes or it could be B which is well I

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know how I think it should go together

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um or the options for the ways could go

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together um but why don't you creatively

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that's not going anywhere and yet you

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may have a great new idea so that's that

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the it's a good idea for the editor and

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the director to meet whenever possible

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Internet um and uh you can you can just

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that the director has in mind but

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disappointments and that will give the

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director a chance to analyze those come

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to terms with them and either make some

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adjustments or um you know or not but at

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least that's an opportunity before the

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possible the editing style is often born

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central characters um and you're you're

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husband there and there was a and there

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suspense there needed to be sort of

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who was trying to rescue them and do

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everything they could from thousands of

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miles away and the family at home that

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uh actually had communication with

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mission control and um no way to talk

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emotionally um you know uh rought and so

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editing room that we began to focus the

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way in which we we were going to uh um

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you know sort of develop each of these

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